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Emergency Telephone District
Board Meeting Minutes
May 20, 2008
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Vice-Chairman Eric Miller Chief, Albion
DPS, Frank Post, Chief Emmett Township DPS, Ken Tsuchiyama, Battle
Creek City, Scott MacDonald, City of Marshall, Commissioner Jase
Bolger, Tom Hardy, (Alternate) Fire Chiefs Council, Bob Keissling,
(Alternate), City of Marshall, Mark Burke, Medical Control
Authority, Greg Purcell, County Administrator |
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| Excused: |
Chairman Allen L. Byam |
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| Also Present: |
Jill Fish, Battle Creek Central
Dispatch, Don Cathcart, RadioCom, Jim Zoss, Battle Creek Emergency
Services Coordinator |
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| County Staff: |
Nancy Mullett, Corporation Counsel,
Jeryl Schoepke, Finance, Alyce McDonagh, Administration |
Call To Order/Recognition of Quorum:
Vice-Chairman Eric Miller called the meeting to order at 8:35 a.m.,
noting a quorum was in attendance.
Agenda Review and Member Addition:
Vice-Chairman Miller indicated he had an item that he would like
added to the Agenda the 800 Template Review and would like Jim Zoss
update the group.
Motion by Mr. Tsuchiyama, supported by Mr. Post that the Agenda be
approved as written with the inclusion of the item as requested by Mr.
Miller. Voice Vote - Motion Carried.
Approval of Minutes - April 15, 2008
The minutes of the April 15, 2008 meeting were approved on a Motion
by Mr. Post and supported by Mr. Purcell. Voice Vote - motion carried.
Financial Report:
Mr. Purcell advised that the Financial Report reflected activity
through the month of April and noted there was nothing unusual in the
report. Payments have gone out to the PSAPs.
Surcharge Appeal to the MPSC:
Nancy advised the group that she had received information which
indicates that Muskegon Central Dispatch 9-1-1 filed a petition for
rehearing, as did Grand Traverse County and Huron County, in addition to
our request. It is noted that “this matter is ripe for
commission decision.” Based on this information, the MPSC may be making
a decision shortly. Of the four requests received, three will be
considered, and ours if among the three. Muskegon’s petition was
insufficient (less than one page in length and clearly did not support
their request/claim).
Also, Nancy advised the group that she has heard from Attorney Doug
VanEssen, who represents some 22 counties in connection with their
appeals. The appeals were made in the Michigan Court of Appeals and all
22 have been “DISMISSED for lack of jurisdiction because the March 11,
2008 order was not appealable at the time that the claim was filed.” The
Order in part continues “If parties file motions for a new trial,
reconsideration, rehearing on similar postjudgment relief within 30 days
of the entry of the March 11, 2008 Order, the appeal ability of the
order is suspended until the MPSC rules on those motions. A claim of
appeal that is filed before the entry of the order deciding the motion
is a premature claim.”
We were not able to determine Mr. VanEssen’s reasoning for going
directly to the Michigan Court of Appeals, instead of going to the MPSC
or the Circuit Court in Ingham County.
Nancy further noted that Verizon has filed an objection to Muskegon’s
appeal to the MPSC and tangentially included all the other counties,
including Calhoun, who have appealed. She has made a motion to strike
their objection on the grounds that they have no standing to object
because they are not a party to the action.
Mr. VanEssen has asked Nancy if Calhoun County would like to enjoin
the Counties he is representing ( at a cost of some $2,000.00). They
will be asking for a stay of the March 11th MPSC order, continue to
collect the surcharge amount allocated and place such amount(s) in an
escrow account until such time as the Legislature makes their decision.
She advised Attorney VanEssen that this would not be practical for
Calhoun County. Nancy remains optimistic that we may hear something yet
this week.
Perhaps the MPSC will drag their heels until the legislature takes
action. The MPSC can either grant or deny our request for a rehearing,
or, they may approve our original request for $0.60¢ or leave it at the
$0.33¢.
Jill Fish noted she looks for some of the telecommunication providers
to throw some roadblocks up along the way.
Mr. Bolger indicated that he remains cautiously hopeful that we will
at least be granted a rehearing, noting also that Representative Nofs
continues to maintain close contact with the MPSC and continues to speak
to them on a regular basis expressing his interest in the matter.
It appears that Battle Creek continues moving forward with their
project. Albion and Marshall representatives will not be able to sell
the Consolidated Dispatch Project to their Commission should the project
be moved to Battle Creek
Mr. Purcell reminded everyone that in the original Resolution, passed
by the Cities of Battle Creek, Marshall. Albion and the County stated:
the entities “hereby commits to the pursuit of a single dispatch
center located in available space within the county building in the
county seat which will offer a centralized location, improved services
to our citizens, increased safety to our emergency response personnel,
and long term savings for our taxpayer....”
Mr. Purcell indicated that at the last meeting, Mr. Wiley had
commented that their figures show that it would cost approximately
$400,000 to move the center to Marshall. At that time, Mr. Bolger asked
Mr. Wiley to provide the cost figures - between the two locations. Mr.
Wiley indicated at that time that Jill Fish had those figures. Mr.
Tsuchiyama indicated that was not the case. Jill Fish is waiting for
figures from Motorola (Gordon Webb) .
Nancy Mullett encouraged the group to continue with their Tuesday
afternoon meetings (as she had indicated in her brief that meetings were
being held on a regular basis with respect to the consolidation).
Vice-Chairman Miller inquired as to whether or not we should begin
working on the Governance Structure. Mr. Purcell commented that this
would be a topic for discussion at the next Work Study Group Meeting to
be scheduled for May 27th at 3:00 p.m. Notification of the meeting will
be emailed to all participants. Mr. Purcell advised that he will pull
the information regarding the composition of the Administrative Board
and other Options for Organizational Structure and send it out to the
group, It was felt it would be in the best interest of the group to
continue along the lines of progress in the hopes that our request for
the .60¢ surcharge would be approved and then “find ourselves ahead of
the game.”
Jill Fish has assured the group she will continue to “stalk” Gordon
Webb if need be in order to obtain the figures the group is waiting for.
800 Template Discussion:
Jim Zoss advised the group that he has met with some members of the
Law Enforcement Agencies (Four showed up) for the yearly update on
templates and has begun to work out the problems. He will continue
meeting with Law Enforcement Agencies that were not representative at
the first meeting and work toward resolution of their problems as well.
800 to VHF Communication Problems
There continues to be problems with the 800 to VHF devices and it
continues to be a serious concern for Mr. Miller.The patch does not work
- the system cuts out - This continues to be a serious problem for fire
and emergency services.
Chief Post indicated that all of his personnel carry two radios -
they maintain the VHF system and 800 MHZ.
Mr. Miller told the members that the police officers cannot
communicate with fire service or vice versa which makes for an extremely
dangerous situation. He is and continues to be concerned about the
safety of his people. Mr. Post echoed Mr. Miller’s his sentiments.
- Patch doesn’t work
- Signal cuts out
- Need to have all Emergency Services on 800
- Fire grant would pay for radios, but mic fees at $200 each
would cause problems for small departments (95% Federal 5% local
match)
- Interoperability is a County-wide issue
- Concern that mutual aid does have 800 capability - another
safety issue
- Marshall personnel carries two radios
- We need to have a long range plan to correct the issues
Mr. Purcell suggested that Gordon Webb be contacted - we need
technology folks here to evaluate these problems.
Mr. Hardy advised the group that early on he was one of the biggest
“nay-sayers” regarding the 800 system. Now, his department is up and
running on the 800 and he says it is a very good system and works better
than VHF. His Department has 5 portable 800's and they are currently on
loan to Homer for a trial period.
It appears that attitudes have changed regarding the 800 system, i.e,
early on when the Fire Service(s) were adamantly opposed to the system.
It is believed that those sentiments have changed considerably over
time, but there again, funding is the critical issue.
Mr. Miller believes a solution must be found - the status quo simply
isn’t acceptable. The safety of the officers, fire service personnel and
emergency services personnel is vitally important to all of the
Departments and this situation simply isn’t working.
Member Comments: None
Public Comments: None
Next Meeting: June 17, 2008
There being no further business to discuss at this time, the meeting
was adjourned to the Call of the Chair, the time being 9:25 a.m.
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